June 23, 2015- Rapture/Being Corrected can you accept it?

NOTE FROM FRANK 2 Every since I became a Christian one of the things I have asked of Jesus Christ was that if I were to ever say or teach anything that was not correct that you would step in and show me what wrong I have commented so that I may always be right with Christ.  A real follower of Christ will always seek to teach all things in accordance with the word of God.  I take what Jesus told Paul to heart in Galatians 1:10 which says,  “10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.” 

For some time now I have been continually bugged by the doctrine of the rapture of the Church.  Jesus just would not let up on me until I did what I read about for the Bereans who checked the word daily as you can read about in the book of Acts 17:11 I quote, ” These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.” 

Since I became a Christian every Pastor that I have ever sat under taught that the rapture of the Church would be before the tribulation.  I can honestly say for years I did not feel the need to even change my views on this doctrine because I really felt that the way I was taught was the way it is to be believed. 

Two weeks ago I prayed to Christ a prayer because I just had this feeling in my spirit that I had been teaching something that needed to be changed. So I did what I normally do I asked Jesus to show me what was wrong!  After speaking to Christ about this He began to speak to me about this pre-trib rapture doctrine. 

I came to find out that if a person   were to put aside all the teachings that he or she had gotten from some one and, went solely by what Jesus says via His word in the Bible than truth would come into focus.    Little did I know that what I saw from such a study would rock my world.   I ask you this question. What if you were taught something by your pastor that you came to find out was a false doctrine.  Would you be man enough to hold to what Paul wrote us in Galatians 1:10 which says,  10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.” ?  Life is very short and if you truly want to make an impact for Christ you will follow Galatians 1:10 to the letter.   I want to thank Jesus for doing what I asked, to give me correction though my own son Adam DiMora. I came to learn that my son Adam was also going though the same thing I was with the pre-trib doctrine. I was going to make an in depth video on this issue but again the Lord me a video that sums it up best.  I will say this, this video did not cover the issue of who it is that is withholding the Antichrist back before the Antichrist is revealed.  If you do a in depth study of who has been holding the force of Satan back you will discover it has been Michael the archangel. I will cover this issue below as well.

For years I have been warning that Christians were not ready for what is coming on this Earth. After coming to see what Jesus has given me on this topic from His word it is much worse than I ever realized. I welcome your comments after you watch this long video.

 

Today someone emailed me to tell me that Michael archangel cannot be the one holding back the Antichrist from being revealed. He cites Jude 9 and says that Michael wasn’t even strong enough to handle getting Moses body.  Which by itself may appear to be true but it is not. Let me explain.

In the Book of Jude, we read that Satan and the Archangel Michael were having a dispute, and the text says that Michael dared not rail against Satan:

But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” (Jude 9)

Michael deferred to Satan; so apparently, [before his fall] Lucifer was higher than Michael. Lucifer never had more inherent authority than the other highest created angels; however, initially God granted him administrative authority over all the angels: You were the anointed cherub who covers. (Ezekiel 28:14)

Who covers tells us that Lucifer was the ruler over all of the innumerable angels. It seems that he had the top position in the governance and control among the angels in God’s service on behalf of the entire created realm until he fell [and became Satan]:How you have fallen from heaven O star of the morning, son of the dawn! (Isaiah 14:12)

Today, Satan has remarkable forces (the one third of the angels who defected), but he is not more powerful than the other Archangels are — including Michael. That is important to say because if Satan has more inherent power than the others do then he would be stronger than they are, and he is NOT. Michael Michael is the only Archangel who is named and identified as Archangel in the Bible. In 1 Thessalonians 4, we read:…with the voice of the archangel and the trumpet of God… (1 Thessalonians 4:16)

Did not God promise in Daniel 12:4 that in the last days knowledge would increase?  I do believe this is part of this last day knowledge.  For many Pastors they will not change course in the matter of this doctrine but I like Paul want to preach what Jesus has given me from His word!

 People are writing me concerning the mid-trib.  I am posting my answers in order to help people see why I am holding to the mid-trib  view.  j

You can not just dismiss one of the most important bible verses concerning the exact timing of the rapture. Jesus told Paul us in 2 Thess 2:3 as you will see in the attachment I have sent you that   two things that have to take place before the gathering of the saints.  The first thing is a falling away first and notice what is second, the antichrist has to be revealed first.  Now take a look in the Revelation when that happens and you will notice that it happens right after the 7th seal.  This is right in the middle of the tribulation if God’s word is correct and we know that it is then the Christians will find themselves living during the 7 seals which is the tribulation being poured out by Satan on the believers.  You can not get around this verse. Show me from the Bible where the antichrist does not have to be revealed first . What I am finding out from those who do not like the mid-trib view is that they have no answer to Thess 2:3 and the reason why they can not answer this is because they simply do not like the fact of where this event is seen which is right after the 7 seals, or to be exact in the middle of the tribulation.

I wanted to tell you that I agree with you that the pastor in the video I put up about the rapture is a hateful person in many ways and, I do not agree or accept the way he teaches on many issues. Not sure if you noticed but I removed his video because he is not a loving pastor but, the verses he used from the Bible to show the rapture were correct.  Please stay with me on this and you will see why.  Just about every person I talk to or who writes me quotes the exact same bible verse you sent to me to try and prove there is a pre-trib rapture. However, It is also very common for these same people to leave out 2 Thess 2:3 which is the scripture which gives us the very time of the rapture.  I went to rapture ready since you gave me their link and once again I found the same thing to be true. Rapture ready used the exact same bible verses to try and prove pre-trib.  If you go back to the link you sent me you will also notice Rapture Ready did not, I repeat, did not post 2 Thess. 2:3.  Ask yourself why?  Because what Paul writes us about takes place right in the middle of the tribulation when the Antichrist is revealed!  Rapture ready can not get around this scripture and that is why they did not post it.  I ask you this question Lori, do you believe Rapture ready or what Jesus told Paul?  

Let me now address the 3 verses you sent me, first Rev. 3:10. Revelation 3:10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

Did you notice Jesus said what this Church kept my command to endure patiently? Endure what? Endure the tribulation that Satan would be pouring out on the last days Church as seen from the 7 seals. The 7 seals are tribulation coming from Satan not God. Now also take notice our Lord tells us He will keep us from the very hour!  I want you to notice what Christ first tells you in Matthew 24: 29.  He says IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE DISTRESS OF THOSE DAYS. What days is He talking about? Again this is the tribulation from Satan not from Christ.  The wrath God talks about begins after the seals and, that is the time Christ is showing us He will keep us from. This becomes clear when you read verses 29-31 below. Please read them than I will continue.

Matthew 24:29-31 “Immediately after the distress of those days“‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky,and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’[a30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[b] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[c] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

Look at verse 31. and ask this question.  When are the angels coming with this trumpet call? Immediately after the signs Jesus gave us in verse 29 which are: Immediately after the distress of those days“‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky,and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ Lori, this happen in the middle of the tribulation and as soon as this happens Jesus calls His Church.  At this point the falling away has taken and the Antichrist is revealed and now the wrath of God begins and the Church at the very beginning of the Lord’s wrath is taken out to be with Christ.  When Jesus comes back He will come back at the time when their is no light as you can see from verse 29.  Remember what Jesus said how He would return?  Look at Matthew 24:27  “For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.”  

Picture what Jesus is showing us in these verses.  In the middle of the tribulation everything will go dark and out of no where Jesus comes back as lightning.  While the entire Earth is in darkness everything suddenly lights up and everyone see Him come back for His Church.  Once again this is in the middle of the 7 year tribulation.  When you put these scriptures together everything lines up but if you delete the warning in 2 Thess. 2:3 nothing lines up and that is why most pre-trib people will not say anything about this verse.

You also sent me Revelation 6:17 For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can withstand it?”  What wrath. John is not talking to us about Satan’s wrath he is warning us about God’s wrath that begin to fall on the entire world Immediately after the 1/2 hour of silence in heaven which again you will see that does not happen until the 7th seal is broken at the mid point not at the beginning of the 7 year tribulation. 

The last scripture you sent me was 1 Thessalonians 5:9  For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,  This verse still holds true as the Church will immediately be taken away after the 7th seal and see no wrath.  

You also pointed out to me the following: “Not to mention the accounts of Noah, Lot, and Enoch.” I ask you this, how long did Noah have to endure the sins and live among those who defiled God? We know for sure at least 120 years because that is about the time period it took Noah to build that ark.   As with the last generation Noah also had to endure patiently until God sealed Him and his family up in the Ark.   Revelation 3:10  Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. Do you think Noah liked living with the ungodly until the Lord sealed him in the ark? 

Lot lived in Sodom for a long time before the two angels came to get him out of the city before God’s wrath was poured out on those who have been vexing Lot.  So like Noah who endured so did Lot until God stepping in to save them. However, for some reason people fail to point this out because it would not flow will with the pre-trib message.  

You also mentioned Enoch in your email to prove God would remove us from the entire 7 years. However it possible that Enoch may have been chosen for an end time mission. According to the Bible, Enoch and Elijah are the only two people God took to heaven without them dying. Genesis 5:24 tells us, “Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him away.” Second Kings 2:11 tells us, “Suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.” Enoch is described as a man who “walked with God for 300 years” (Genesis 5:23). Elijah was perhaps the most powerful of God’s prophets in the Old Testament. There are also prophecies of Elijah’s return (Malachi 4:5-6).

Why did God take Enoch and Elijah? The Bible does not specifically give us the answer. Some speculate that they were taken in preparation for a role in the end times, possibly as the two witnesses in Revelation 11:3-12. This is possible, but not explicitly taught in the Bible. It may be that God desired to save Enoch and Elijah from experiencing death due to their great faithfulness in serving and obeying Him. Whatever the case, God has His purpose, and while we don’t always understand God’s plans and purposes, we know that “His way is perfect” (Psalm 18:30).

Here is the bottom line.  If those you are asking about a pre-trib rapture make sure they also account for what we are told in 2 Thess. 2:3.  If the person you speak with can show you that the Antichrist’s revealing comes at the beginning of the tribulation then you will have a case to stand on but the bible is very clear that this event takes place after the 7th seal. If I were you I would write the Rapture Ready people and ask them why they left out 2 Thess. 2:3?

Let us keep in mind the rapture is not a salvation issue but an issue of being right with Christ at all times so you don’t have to worry about the rapture at all!

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    • Tammy Darnell on June 24, 2015 at 2:59 am
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    Amen Frank!!

  1. our church doesn’t preach this AT ALL our Bishop concentrates on how the church is doing, how we are holy and not carnal; we are not told when the Rapture takes place all we know is that sometimes in history it does, I want to pay attention to being in God’s presence & witnessing to people about Christ. Perry Stone does preach on a pretrib rapture as a reward for faithfulness to Christ whatever whenever how did you and me spend our lives living for lost souls? That’s where I am at now; no argument from me, when it will take place of will our Lord skip a generation??
    Is the church really ready?

    • Rodney john on June 24, 2015 at 9:42 am
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    I Personnally think the rapture as God’s Buisness when it comes to when.I concentrate on being Worthy enough..If some of Christendoms finest can’t come to an agreement on scripture.I an ordinary man in Christ have no chance.So I put my Faith in my King!

    • Jose on June 24, 2015 at 9:06 pm
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    My dear friend, are you sure was the voice of God that talked to you about yours thoughts on pre-trib rapture? Many people have heard Christ talking to them that He is ready to come and take is bride for the wedding in heaven. I myself have been thought on a post-rein rapture but after many prayers the Holy Spirit convicted me that there is a pre-rein rapture. If you read Revelation only two churches aren’t going to suffer persecution. So you believe what you want because I am sure that God doesn’t allow His faithful ones going through so much suffering. What about the children? Is it fair for them to go through tribulation? Many are going already in the Middle East. If I was you I will go down on my knees and ask the Lord with prayer and fasting to reveal you the truth. I am sure you are wrong.

    1. Since the Church was born the church has been under attack by Satan. Christians over the centuries have died and they are still dying in mass number as ISIS keeps moving from nation to nation. Do you think that Jesus doesn’t love these people who are dying now because they are believers? ISIS is killing kids as well does this mean that Jesus doesn’t love these kids because He is allowing ISIS to kill so many? Heavens no. Jesus warned us about what we are to expect. John 16: 33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. Keep in mind Jose the tribulation Jesus is teaching us about is not the tribulation that we see after the 7th seal of the Revelation. After the 7th seal the Church leaves to be with Christ and the wrath of God is poured out. This is known as jacob’s trouble where the wrath of God is pouring out on all who link themselves with the Antichrist. When does this rapture take place? All you have to do is read Matthew 24: 23-27 to know for sure. I quote, “ 23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. 24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.” Did you notice what Christ said here? After that tribulation? What tribulation is Jesus talking about? It is the time of Satan’s attack on the Church once Michael tosses him out of heaven. When is this time over? Answer: after the 7th seal. That is the rapture of the Church and that happens in the middle of the tribulation. You asked me about the kids I quote you. “Is it fair for them to go through tribulation” How are we to question why God does the thing He does or allows to happen to the children He loves. After all did not God allow His only Son to be violently killed? Didn’t Jesus tell us straight out in 1 Thess. 2:3 when the rapture would take place? Yes. Read it for yourself. I quote, “ Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” I ask you Jose when does this event happen in scripture? It takes place in the middle of the tribulation and right after that event happen guess what? We are raptured. If you still think I am wrong I want you to do the right thing for Christ. Prove what you are saying to me that I am wrong. I have given you detailed information as to the exact time of the rapture via the word. Now I wait for your reply.

      Frank

    • Andrea on June 24, 2015 at 11:08 pm
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    Frank, I’m so glad I listened to this recording because I have felt so confused for so long about the pre trib teachings. It never felt quite right to me, it just didn’t make sense when I read the bible passages in revelation. I’ve read all the left behind books and they just seemed too much like a Hollywood fantasy movie. I can now look again at scripture with fresh eyes and make sense of what it actually says and not try to make it fit into a pre trib mould, like forcing a square peg in a round hole.

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